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Old 16th June 2009, 19:52   #1 (permalink)
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I received a parking charge notice from UK PAO Ltd. on the 5th feb 2009 for parking in a disabled bay. There was plenty of other disabled spaces and I was only there for about 10 minutes, either way I knew the charge was laughable and looked for any ways to get out of paying, I found this forum and have sent a few letters but now they have sent me a picture of my car and still saying they will take to court, now actually giving me a 14 day notice so maybe I will find out soon enough.

I've seen a few threads about this company and from what I've seen they have no chance of winning in court anyway, but what about the fact that I clearly parked in a disabled bay with no badge, in front of the sign to say I'm agreeing to pay?

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Old 16th June 2009, 19:52   #2 (permalink)
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I ignored the original notice, then received a number of 'statements' notifying me of my ever increasing balance adding £3 per day



I replied with this letter:

UK P.A.O Ltd
PO Box 200
Leeds
LS28 0AT

Parking charge/Reference Number: *****
Issued at: Alexandra Retail Park, Grimsby

I refer to the statement I received notifying me of £189 worth of parking charges, this amount should be forwarded to the driver of the vehicle at the time, not the registered keeper.

For future reference my address has changed to the one above.




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I then received the above letter, to which I replied with a letter template from this website:

Re: Your letter dated 14/04/2009

I refer to your previous correspondence.

I will welcome the opportunity to defend your allegation in court and am confident of success. Of course you will be required to produce the evidence that I have requested and you have failed to provide. You will also have to answer to the court why you failed to do so.

Unless you provide evidence to substantiate your claim against me I shall be unable to help you further in this matter.

This alleged debt therefore remains disputed by me. Save for supplying the evidence referred to above I must ask you to cease and desist correspondence with me.

Other than as described above, any further correspondence from you or any other party in relation to this matter may result in a complaint to the authorities under the Protection From Harassment Act 1997
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Old 16th June 2009, 19:59   #4 (permalink)
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Old 16th June 2009, 20:01   #5 (permalink)
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Just another bunch of chancers.
Any letters that you have already sent to them are that many, TOO many.
Just ignore. You will get a few letters, threatening more and more, until they reach the stage of threatening to sell your wife into slavery, etc. You may get a couple of letters from a DCAautolinker.com autolinking image or even a "solicitor".

Just ignore them all. Eventually they will get fed up and chase someone else who is easy to frighten

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I have then recently received this letter, which has a clear picture of my car and states they have 6 yearsautolinker.com autolinking image to bring a claim against me, can anybody confirm this?


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That tiny little terrace house is very deceptive. How ever do all the various departments run so efficiently from such a place.

And i wonder if they are paying business subscription rates to Sky too.
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That is a very good question. or even if the (home)office is declared for appropriate council tax rating.
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That tiny little terrace house is very deceptive. How ever do all the various departments run so efficiently from such a place.

And i wonder if they are paying business subscription rates to Sky too.
I've had a good look on google street view and it's actually the detached house next to the garage. The house is split up, I managed to zoom in on their bins and found they go up to at least 53E. They do have 2 Sky dishes though...

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Just another bunch of chancers.
Any letters that you have already sent to them are that many, TOO many.
Just ignore. You will get a few letters, threatening more and more, until they reach the stage of threatening to sell your wife into slavery, etc. You may get a couple of letters from a DCAautolinker.com autolinking image or even a "solicitor".

Just ignore them all. Eventually they will get fed up and chase someone else who is easy to frighten

Remember, It's not a fine, it's an unenforcible invoice, that has no legal status.
Rooster, what are the chances of agreeing to settle at the point where the wife is sold into slavery? Will I be able to hold them to that under civil contract law?
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Rooster, what are the chances of agreeing to settle at the point where the wife is sold into slavery? Will I be able to hold them to that under civil contract law?
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So basically just ignore them from now on? Is there no chance they would ever win in court? Why not?

If they take it to a debt collectionautolinker.com autolinking image agency and I don't pay them can't they mark it on my credit fileautolinker.com autolinking image?
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So basically just ignore them from now on? Is there no chance they would ever win in court? Why not?

If they take it to a debt collection agency and I don't pay them can't they mark it on my credit fileautolinker.com autolinking image?
No. Because the debt has not been proven. If a DCAautolinker.com autolinking image put anything on your credit file without the debt being proven they could get into some pretty serious problems. The only way to prove the debt, is to take you to court, which they can't do because only the landowner can (for trespass).
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No. Because the debt has not been proven. If a DCAautolinker.com autolinking image put anything on your credit fileautolinker.com autolinking image without the debt being proven they could get into some pretty serious problems. The only way to prove the debt, is to take you to court, which they can't do because only the landowner can (for trespass).

And theres no chance of UK PAO owning the car park?
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matters not
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do some reading in this forum

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